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    #63765   2008-05-15 14:20 GMT      
    Hey all... This is my first year to start a veggie garden. So far, I have a couple tomato plants, and some strawberry plants. But.. I'm getting ready to plant a variety.. I have a few more tomato plants, 4 squash, 10 watermelon, 4 cucumber, 1 Habanero, 4 Jalapeno, 4 bell pepper, 4 broccoli, 4 cauliflower... And then all of the above in seeds, plus cabbage, corn, radish, carrot, cantaloupe, spinach, lettuce, peas, beans, brussell sprouts, pumpkin, sunflower, and a few others.

    Of these, do any do well in partial shade? Is it too late or early to plant any of these? Any of these need special care/more difficult to grow?

    Just any advice from experience veggie gardeners would be appreciated!!

    Thanks =)
    Zone 6 - Southwestern Virginia

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    #63766   2008-05-15 14:28 GMT      
    Timing depends what zone you are in.

    I'm in zone 6 and now is the time to plant tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers and squash. I started my seeds indoors 5 weeks ago though. Are you planting seeds or plants?

    If you plant seeds now..you wont have the veggies I mentioned until late summer. (I'm not sure if you have seeds or plants though)

    Lettuce and a few others you mention are cool weather crops.You would be better off waiting until september to plant those.

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    #63767   2008-05-15 14:29 GMT      
    This is a good site to help you out...with all those plants you need to make sure you provide adequate space in between your plants

    http://www.thegardenhelper.com/vegtips.html

    Also make sure you provide enough water for your plants...and make sure you provide adequate food for them...i use a mixture of time released plant food and my own home grown compost.....your just about right for planting most of those plants.... brocolli likes cooler temps and as does spinach/lettuce....you should be fine however....

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    #63768   2008-05-15 14:34 GMT      
    Quite a variety. Probably too late for spinach - it is hard to grow anyway. Peas also prefer to be planted in early spriong.. Brocc, cauli, brussells, cabbage and lettuce will take some shade. Watermelon, cantelope needs sun, rich soil and mositure. Watch out, squash plants can get quite large. Tomatoes, beans and peppers are easiest. Cukes are pretty easy, but will likely succumb to disease later in the summer. Enjoy.

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    #63769   2008-05-15 14:37 GMT      
    It depends where you are in the country, but you are pretty much too late now for peas to be successful anywhere, and if you grow lettuce and other leafy vegetables, they will need some protection from the full sun, and to be kept well watered.

    Carrots and radishes (root vegetables) need soft sandy soil, otherwise they will turn out distorted. They also need plenty of water to row well.

    Brussels sprouts and cabbage are not easy. They need a long cool growing season and sprouts need to be frosted to taste good.

    Pretty much everything should be in the ground now, but you many need to protect the tender plants (peppers and melons) from cold nights. I find that plastic gallon milk bottles with the bottom cut off and no caps do very well as miniature greenhouses.

    You are being very ambitious for a first time vegetable gardener. I think it is always better to start with some easier plants (tomatoes, peppers, green beans) then add each year. Also, only grow the things you really like to eat and that are more expensive in the stores. That is why I never bother with carrots and cabbage.

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    #63770   2008-05-15 14:39 GMT      
    Soil preparation is also very important. Dig your garden plot up well and then amend the soil with a compost such as sheep or cow manure(no, it doesn't stink). Work that in really well and plan your rows before you plant.

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    #63771   2008-05-15 14:44 GMT      
    I would start the tomatoes and peppers inside and all the others in the field.
    Not sure but you might end up with fall tomatoes.
    If you plant all the seeds on your list you will need a good hoe, an umbrella for a shade brake with a gallon of lemonade per day. LOL

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    #63772   2008-05-15 15:08 GMT      
    Wow That is a Huge Garden and Sounds Delicious

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    #63773   2008-05-16 02:30 GMT      
    "Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
    I think starting a garden is an excellent way to get your veggies without spending a lot of money... and for me it's turned into a therapeutic hobby too.

    There are a lot of factors-- type of soil you have, amount of sun, wat size garden, what you want to grow, etc, etc....

    Here's some general advice--- (the best I can do without knowing more about your yard)

    Find the sunniest spot in your yard.... rent a tiller to turn the soil....

    Then, see what the neighbors are growing (chances are they have the same type of soil you do)..... or take a soil sample to your local nursery and ask them, "what will grow in this type of ground"?

    As for maintenance..... put down a lot of mulch.... it will keep the water in and reduce the number of weeds..... if you want to get fancy, they have plastic or burlap tarps you can put over the garden to keep weeds down.

    The south east is a great climate because you have a longer growing season.... if you have good soil, you should have a bountiful garden.

    Here's a link to an ebook that may help you-- it's pretty thorough and offers some good advice. It's titled Vegetable Garden Secrets. http://www.iwantateachingjob.com/garden.html
    Maybe the book can help you get started.

    Best of luck!!
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    "Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
    I did some research on this very subject a few days ago and here is what I found....The following is a list of vegetables of partial shade-tolerant vegetables. While productions may be greater in the sun, these plants will produce an edible crop when grown in a shady location. However, remember that nothing will grow in complete shade. Plants will need some morning, evening or filtered sun; a total of two to six hours of direct sun is the minimum.
    Arugala Rhubarb Beans Rutabagas Beets Salad Burnet Broccoli Salsify Brussels sprouts Sorrel cabbage Spinach Cauliflower Summer Squash Celery Turnips Cress Endive HERBS Garlic Angelica Kale Borage Kohlrabi Caraway Leaf Lettuce Chervil Leeks Coriander Parsley Lemon Balm Parsnips Lovage Peas Mint Potatoes Tarrgon Pumpkins Thyme Radish
    blueberries, raspberries, and several kinds of pears
    In general, leafy vegetables are the most shade-tolerant, while those that fruit from a flower (tomatoes, peppers, squash, eggplants) are the least. In between are the root vegetables requiring at least a half day of full sun: potatoes, beets, carrots and turnips. Shade tolerant leafy vegetables include lettuce, spinach, Swiss chard, arugula, endive and radiccio. Broccoli (and its relatives -- kale, kohlrabi, turnips, mustard and cabbage -- also grow in partial shade.

    Good Luck"

    Note: Crisphead, also known as iceberg, has a tightly compacted head with crisp, light green leaves. Many gardeners find this type difficult to grow due to high temperatures.
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